Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
plat à barbe
English translation:
shaving bowl/dish
Jan 3, 2009 16:29
15 yrs ago
French term
France
The Human Translator
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, Russian to English, Spanish to English, and 2 more.
plats à barbe
French to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
ceramic objects given by Picasso to his barber
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +7 | shaving bowl(s) |
kashew
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| 4 +2 | shaving plate |
Helen Shiner
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| 3 +1 | barber's bowl |
Susan Spier (X)
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References
| interesting reference |
SJLD
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Proposed translations
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shaving bowl(s)
* checks out visually on Google
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Note added at 1 hr (2009-01-03 17:58:07 GMT)
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Maybe DISH is the accurate term?
www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/masonic_shaving_dish.h...
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Note added at 1 hr (2009-01-03 17:58:07 GMT)
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Maybe DISH is the accurate term?
www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/masonic_shaving_dish.h...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+2
20 mins
Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Arts/Academic translator - Art historian
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English
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shaving plate
I know shaving bowl sounds more normal, but there are no references on the internet [that I can find] to Picasso and a shaving bowl. There are however, references [not many] to a shaving plate - here a review of a exhibition of P's ceramic work. Bear in mind, Picasso was all for visual puns and playing around with genres:
Some of the pieces on view display the wit for which Picasso was known. The image of a tall thin man in a bicorn hat astride a horse confronting a bull is painted on a shaving plate that is pierced with two holes. The work is probably a visual pun on the story of Don Quixote who hung a shaving plate around his neck to serve as the breastplate of his suit of armor.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE2D91539F...
Some of the pieces on view display the wit for which Picasso was known. The image of a tall thin man in a bicorn hat astride a horse confronting a bull is painted on a shaving plate that is pierced with two holes. The work is probably a visual pun on the story of Don Quixote who hung a shaving plate around his neck to serve as the breastplate of his suit of armor.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE2D91539F...
Peer comment(s):
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kashew
: You are quite right: an everyday shaving bowl is not plate-shaped! But Razorland should know their business?! Good New Year!
30 mins
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To be absolutely sure, I guess, one should consult the catalogue raisonné, but I haven't got a copy. Nonetheless, it really does look like a plate to me, much more shallow than the obvious bowls in the other images./Oh and Happy New Year, too!!
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SJLD
: I believe Don Quixote wore a brass shaving bowl on his head as a helmet :)
32 mins
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As I said, Picasso loved messing with genres and making visual puns. I don't know the double entendre here, but he may well have wanted to say, try using that, or for those with the bigger beard, for all I know!!
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Jim Tucker (X)
: Picasso Plates - this was one of his most prolific genres. The photo in the link posted above ( http://razorland55.free.fr/plat_barbe/barbier_corrida_picass... ) is one such Picasso plate, with a cutout to hold at the customer's neck to protect clothes
40 mins
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Thank you, Jim - that'll be a plate.
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Mollie Milesi
: Actually, a shaving bowl in the 18th and 19th centuries was plate-shaped, and was called a bowl.
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Thanks, Mollie
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5 hrs
barber's bowl
Here is another option from the Picasso Museum in Spain
Reference:
Reference comments
50 mins
Reference:
interesting reference
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Helen Shiner
: yes, another occurrence of the shaving plate - how interesting!
23 mins
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