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2 spaces after period. Can this be considered a rule in English?

English answer:

not any more....

Added to glossary by aivars
Nov 24, 2004 16:33
19 yrs ago
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English term

2 spaces after period. Can this be considered a rule in English?

English Art/Literary Linguistics
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2 spaces after period. Can this be considered a rule in English?

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+9
5 mins
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not any more....

When documents were typed on a typewriter, yes. Now that computers are used, the general rule is one space after a period, but still two after a colon.
Peer comment(s):

agree Kim Metzger : On the computer, just hit the space bar once after a period.
8 mins
thanks
agree Sven Petersson
13 mins
thanks
agree jccantrell : Yep, with word processors, it is not longer used in the USA.
16 mins
thanks
agree tazdog (X) : http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/cmosfaq/cmosfaq.O...
21 mins
thanks... ah U of C.... great reference....
agree Wenjer Leuschel (X)
1 hr
agree Saleh Chowdhury, Ph.D.
9 hrs
agree vixen
16 hrs
agree KathyT
16 hrs
agree Alexandra Tussing : It is still used sometimes in some organizations, but it is NOT a general rule anymeore
2 days 12 hrs
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+4
11 mins

it is optional

I always leave two spaces after a period because I think it looks better and neater to thus separate two periods.
As I understand it most it is completely optional and most of the people I know who do it, do it for aesthetic reasons.
HTH
Peer comment(s):

agree RHELLER : it is still being disputed; both are accepted
1 hr
Thanks Rita
agree Java Cafe
4 hrs
Thanks JC
agree Charlie Bavington : I'm with you, but it would appear we are a minority! But mebbe I'll try to join the 20th century at least; not sure I'm ready for the 21st...
4 hrs
Thanks Charlie :)
agree Saleh Chowdhury, Ph.D.
9 hrs
Thanks Saleh
disagree KathyT : Two periods really stuffs up copy when publishing (books, etc.). Many publishers will return the copy and ask for it to be "fixed" (ie. back to a single space after the period). (P.S. Of course that should have been 2 SPACES AFTER a period. Apologies!)
16 hrs
If you say so. About the publishing, I mean. I didn't know that. However, whenever space is not a problem, I still think two spaces after a period is neat.
agree Alexandra Tussing
2 days 12 hrs
Thanks Alexandra
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12 mins

if you can't kick the habit...

...it's ok
1 or 2 spaces after a period, although not necessary.
Peer comment(s):

neutral pidzej : what not necessary please - 1 or 2 spaces?
2 hrs
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+4
17 mins

No, not in the UK - possibly another AE - BE thing.

If you look at the (European) English Style Guide, as below, you will see there is only one space after the colon. http://europa.eu.int/comm/translation/writing/style_guides/e...

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Note added at 20 mins (2004-11-24 16:54:22 GMT)
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colon as well....
Peer comment(s):

agree Cilian O'Tuama : FWIW, I personally prefer only one space at a time, anywhere.
13 mins
agree Catherine Bolton : Just want to clarify that it is NOT an AE thing. Only one space now in the US, though back in the days of typewriters it was 2, as others have noted. Only 1 space after a colon too, as you've noted.
48 mins
agree awilliams
7 hrs
agree Tony M : Yes, I've never heard of 2 after a colon either; it's all the fault of that Remington chap... Mind you, it's worse with colons in FR, with 1 space before and 2 after! As for quotes... « »
14 hrs
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+4
18 mins

NO, it is NOT a rule!

Good [European] typography would deprecate 2 spaces after a period / full-stop.

As other answerers have correctly pointed out, it is a hangover from a convention that was adopted when typewriters came in, to make for added clarity (because with traditional typography or handwriting, such spaces might naturally have been made SLIGHTLY wider than the others, whereas with the fixed spacing on typewriters it had to be either 1 or 2, nothing in between!)

In my view, modern technology now enables us to drop this ugly habit and return to at least some of the dignity of 'proper' typography, without any sacrifice of legibility.

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Note added at 17 hrs 29 mins (2004-11-25 10:02:38 GMT)
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Kathy, in her peer comment to Paula\'s suggestion above, makes a very important point! The double space can have all sorts of ramificiations, both in the publishing world, and even in simple wor-processing; double spaces scerw up all sorts of things, and can make \'search-and-replacing\' a nightmare.

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Note added at 22 hrs 5 mins (2004-11-25 14:38:53 GMT)
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In reply to Aubonmot\'s amended peer comment:
Oh yes, indeed, full justification almost ALWAYS seems ugly to me, at least as performed automatically by most w/p / DTP software. I have fond memories of the olden days, and the time I would spend lovingly justifying a page of text set in metal type, using the 4 standard sizes of space available --- not to mention all the cheats and \'getarounds\'! So tactile, typography to me will always be a very concrete art... Ah me, those were the days... not of wine and roses, but of linseed oil and lead-poisoning. :-)
Peer comment(s):

agree Dr Sue Levy (X) : I'm glad you said that!
3 hrs
Thanks, Sue! I'm a great one for traditional values in typography :-)
agree Johanne Bouthillier : although I would'nt say it was ugly // full justification often looks ugly...
5 hrs
Merci, Aubonmot ! It tends to create unbalanced amounts of white space, placing undue emphasis on the sentence breaks, which may or may not be useful. Also makes for 'rivers' in blocks of text, and can look bad if used with full justification too!
agree awilliams : I agree that it's ugly. Really ugly.
7 hrs
Thanks, A/W!
agree KathyT : Absolutement!
16 hrs
Thanks, Kathy!
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