Glossary entry

Portuguese term or phrase:

doces de corte

English translation:

fruit pastes

Added to glossary by Mike Davison
May 18, 2012 20:05
12 yrs ago
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Portuguese term

doces de corte

Portuguese to English Social Sciences Food & Drink TERMS FOR SWEET AND DESERTS
Servem também para o preparo de geleias e doces de corte.

Discussion

Nick Taylor May 21, 2012:
Lindsay and Marlene Yes, what is the mysterious substance or process? Maybe by describing the desserts or sweets as "slice-able" would work. Food for thought.
Marlene Curtis May 20, 2012:
Doces de corte - Falta de contexto. A chave do mistério é descobrir : o que serve para o preparo de geléias doces de corte acima.
Lindsay Spratt May 20, 2012:
Pastes I like how that definition includes 'slab', Nick! I just don't think of a 'paste' as something you'd cut up into portions for serving or sale. And a paste needs to accompany something in my mind, unlike a lot of these doces de corte which are just eaten on their own. 'Firm jelly' is actually not bad in itself, but wouldn't work for anything that isn't fruit. Would be nice to know what the term encompasses in the context.
Nick Taylor May 20, 2012:
Possibly this (very concise and to the point) A dessert which is made in a slab-like form in a shallow mould or tray from a variety of ingredients having a consistency somewhat more firm than a cake or sponge which when divided into portions with the use of a sharpened blade or spatula retains its form which is usually rectangular or square (but not necessarily).
rir May 19, 2012:
Nick you can have geleia de abobora and other veggies....and you are right the asker strangely doesn't come in the discussion or gives us any clue or more context...let's just wait until he does it. Yes, arroz doce is rice pudding, doce in portuguese goes also for desserts, not only jam or jellies. Doce de ovos, doce de amendoa, bavaroise, toucinho do ceu, papos de anjo, pudins, mousses, and on and on.....mas nem todos os doces sao de corte:)
http://www.gastronomias.com/doces/pagina2.htm
Nick Taylor May 19, 2012:
i.e. WTF is used to prepare the geleias e doces de corte?
Nick Taylor May 19, 2012:
Arroz doce - Rice pudding? hi rir: take a look at this - Pandan Kuih Kosui, or even Nyonya Kueh Lapis!
As I said, I think Mr Davison is having a good laugh at our expense by not providing a significant context :-)
rir May 19, 2012:
ja se tinha chegado a conclusao que doces de corte nao sao apenas de fruta, mas tem que se ter em conta o contexto, nao vale a pena estar a generalizar. Se se trata de geleias e doces de fruta, porque nao usar fruit pates or fruit pastes or fruit cheeses? Todos estes termos sao sinonimos, agora o asker que escolha:)
fruit paste tb encaixa aqui Lindsay, porque ha pastas possiveis de cortar...firm jellies:)
http://spanishfood.about.com/od/dessertssweets/r/membrilloqu...
http://www.gourmet-food.com/gourmet-food/fruit-paste-1000126...
o que diferencia estes doces de corte eh a consistencia e o metodo de confeccao, eles sao uma etapa avancada dos cremes, geleias, compotas, doces de barrar, que os tornam mais solidos e possiveis de cortar e usar em fatias e ou pedacos fatiados. O cheese cake pode ser considerado um doce de corte, ja nao pode ser o arroz doce ou o creme de leite....ou a mousse de chocolate:)
Nick Taylor May 19, 2012:
Yes you got a point ... but the asker refers to geleias...so I took my lead from that. However, it refers in the title to Food and Dairy, so it could conceivably include Brownies, Coconut ice, Mint cake, Fudge, Halva, Kalakand, Besan Burfi etc
Quote from a web page- "If you're familiar with French pâtes de fruit or fudge, you'll want to try the Indian / Middle Eastern equivalent, called halwa. Halwa literally means "sweet" in Arabic. It can be made with different ingredients such as carrots, pumpkin, yams, beets, semolina and many types of beans, lentils or nuts."
To sum up I think Mr Davison is (mouth-wateringly) jerking our chain ;-).........
Lindsay Spratt May 19, 2012:
Not always fruit. 'Doces de corte' are not just fruit, Nick.
Nick Taylor May 19, 2012:
Good old quince paté! Did someone mention marmelada? Quince pate is a very special confection. It is firmer than a jelly, being more like turkish delight in texture. It could also be called quince leather or cheese, but none of these names really describes it adequately.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/4851147/Slices-o...
Nick Taylor May 19, 2012:
goiabada etc goiabada, bananada, ergo Fruit Paté
Lindsay Spratt May 19, 2012:
Do you 'cut' up a paste? You spread a paste, you can't cut it up into pieces, the consistency isn't right.
rir May 19, 2012:
Marlene, eu dei o exemplo de marmelada e goiabada mas nao como termo a usar neste caso:), eh um bom exemplo de doce de corte. E Sim, marmeladas e goiabadas sao feitas em casa, e se sao!... desde os tempos da minha avo e mae, que sempre eram feitas em casa, todos os anos, e costume familiar, doce habitual na mesa, marmelada caseira, e nunca comprada na loja:) Doces de corte nao sao apenas de fruta, isso tem razao, eh preciso ter mais contexto para fazer uma boa adaptacao;
Marlene Curtis May 19, 2012:
Doces de corte São quaiquer doces cortados para servir, e não somente doces de frutas.
Marlene Curtis May 19, 2012:
Doces de corte Seria necessário fazer-se uma adaptação. Marmeladas e goiabadas são industrializadas e não são feitas em casa, e não fazem parte da dieta dos Estados Unidos ou Inglaterra, a não ser na camada hispânica da população.
rir May 19, 2012:
doces de corte http://www.hfcarraro.com.br/organicos/doces-de-corte
http://www.anvisa.gov.br/legis/resol/09_78_doces.htm
"....produtos, e estão de acordo com o estabelecido
pela legislação brasileira, para doce de corte, que
preconiza um mínimo de 65% de sólidos solúveis
no produto final (Brasil 1978)"
Os doces de corte podem ser de vegetais etc. o conceito doce de corte no Brasil estah legislado, e nao eh bolo!) E apenas uma consistencia mais firme (que da para cortar) que vem a seguir as pastas, doces geleias, etc.
por isso resta saber se no contexto do asker as substancias a que se referem e que servem para o preparo de geleias e doces de corte sao frutas, senao nao podemos colocar apenas fruit pastes/sweets/ cheeses!:)

Proposed translations

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fruit pastes

DISSERTAÇÃO Seriguela (Spondias purpurea L.): propriedades ...
www.ufrrj.br/posgrad/ppgcta/tesesedissertacoes/.../D-279.pd...
Formato do arquivo: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Visualização rápida
seriguela formulados foram geléias e doces de corte com diferentes ... physicochemical properties, development of jelly and fruit paste, and their acceptability.
Peer comment(s):

agree XXXphxxx (X) : Depends on the target audience. Tricky one as we don't have an equivalent, at least in the U.K. but yes, 'fruit pastes' is as close as it gets.
7 mins
Obrigado pelo agree e pelo comentário. Tenha um bom fim de semana.
agree rir : doces de corte sao as pastas tipo marmelada, goiabada, etc...fica tipo pasta ou queijo como lhe chamam em ingles (quince cheese)http://www.huffingtonpost.com/encyclopedia/definition/fruit-...
4 hrs
Obrigado pelo agree e pelo comentário. Tenha um bom fim de semana.
neutral Lindsay Spratt : These aren't pastes and don't all involve fruit: http://fuleiragem.typepad.com/photos/feira_livre/dsc00888.ht... http://www.receitaculo.com/receita/12120/
5 hrs
Esses doces têm graus de consistência variados. Não é um produto comum em outros países e portanto não existe uma tradução 100% exata. Veja os comentários dos colegas acima.
neutral Marlene Curtis : Concordo com a Lindsay. Doces de corte não envolvem apenas frutas http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&sa=X&biw=1440&bih=749&tbm...
11 hrs
Me baseio no ciontexto. Como fala em geléias e doces de corte imagino que sejam frutas. Se for para o Brasil são doces do tipo goiabada, bananada etc.
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12 mins

sweets OR cakes cut into squares/shapes

https://www.google.com/search?q=doces de corte&hl=en&prmd=im...

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https://www.google.com/webhp?source=search_app#hl=en&gs_nf=1...

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Note added at 16 mins (2012-05-18 20:22:44 GMT)
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São os doces ou bolos de bandeja, geralmente cortados em quadrados. Favor comparar as fotos acima.

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Note added at 26 mins (2012-05-18 20:32:25 GMT)
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http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&sa=X&biw=1440&bih=749&tbm...
Peer comment(s):

agree Nick Taylor
1 day 23 hrs
Thanks!
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45 mins

slabs of sweets

I think 'slabs' might be a good way to express the 'de corte' aspect, so perhaps 'slabs of sweets' might be an option. This is for British English, 'candy slabs' seems to be related to cars in American English.

I have never thought of 'doce' referring to cakes as Marlene suggests, or of chocolate, but you could add these if needed.

See: http://enjoyindianfood.blogspot.com.br/2010/01/mahim-halwa-f...

http://http://www.lovelychocolate.co.uk/store/chocolate/dark...

http://http://www.chocolatebuttons.co.uk/hammer-gift-pack-40...



Peer comment(s):

neutral Salvador Scofano and Gry Midttun : I am sorry but if I search for "slabs of sweets" in google picture I get several things but not a single doce de corte: https://www.google.com.br/search?hl=pt-BR&q="slabs of sweets...
7 hrs
As you said yourself, this is not about finding an exact equivalent. There are lots of examples of toffee and chocolate being referred to as 'slabs' if you look online.
agree Nick Taylor
2 days 1 hr
Thanks, Nick :)
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5 hrs
13 hrs

Patê de Fruit/Fruit paté

Patê de Fruit
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