Sep 4, 2010 18:45
13 yrs ago
German term
Bildbotschaften
German to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
In a text concerning art work from South Africa:
Die sogenannten Amagama, Bildbotschaften, wie sie in der Fachwelt genannt werden, haben ihre Wurzeln in der Fertigung von Schmuckstücken und Gewandteilen ...
I know what this means, but my problem is the "Fachwelt" reference and so I'm only really looking for the proper specialist term, if there is one. (Btw, amagama is Zulu for names/words, I think).
Die sogenannten Amagama, Bildbotschaften, wie sie in der Fachwelt genannt werden, haben ihre Wurzeln in der Fertigung von Schmuckstücken und Gewandteilen ...
I know what this means, but my problem is the "Fachwelt" reference and so I'm only really looking for the proper specialist term, if there is one. (Btw, amagama is Zulu for names/words, I think).
Proposed translations
(English)
| 2 | coded images |
Nesrin
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| 3 +1 | iconics |
Jim Tucker (X)
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| 3 | expressive symbols |
phillee
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| 3 | visual messages |
grundmargi
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| 2 | pictorial codes |
Nicole Backhaus
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| 2 | non-verbal images |
Stephen Sadie
|
Proposed translations
1 hr
Selected
coded images
I know you're looking for a proper specialist term, but I've looked at several references on the mural art of the ndebele, and how the geometric shapes represented secret codes of the villagers, but they never seem to refer to them with any specialist term... So "coded images" is entirely mine...
See eg here "These wall paintings done by the women of the Ndebele was their secret code to their people, disguised to anyone but the Ndebele." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ndebele_house_painting
Of course, I'm inferring from the German reference I mentioned in the discussion above, that this is what the "amagama" is about.... here it is again:
"Die Mauern im Außenbereich und Teile der Fassade sind mit geometrischen Ornamenten in kräftig-bunten Farben bemalt. Diese Fassadenbilder werden in Südafrika von den Frauen der Ndebele gemalt und von ihnen als Amagama, Bildbotschaften, bezeichnet. " http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrika-Haus_Freiberg
See eg here "These wall paintings done by the women of the Ndebele was their secret code to their people, disguised to anyone but the Ndebele." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ndebele_house_painting
Of course, I'm inferring from the German reference I mentioned in the discussion above, that this is what the "amagama" is about.... here it is again:
"Die Mauern im Außenbereich und Teile der Fassade sind mit geometrischen Ornamenten in kräftig-bunten Farben bemalt. Diese Fassadenbilder werden in Südafrika von den Frauen der Ndebele gemalt und von ihnen als Amagama, Bildbotschaften, bezeichnet. " http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrika-Haus_Freiberg
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to everyone for their contributions, all of which are good contenders. It seems there is no specific English term for these images after all. The points go to Nesrin for all her research. Thank you. Amazingly though, my text goes on to say that there is no hidden meaning to these images or need for interpretation, so I think I'll probably have to go with 'expressive images'."
5 hrs
Nicole Backhaus
Native in German
Native German - Fast and affordable
Native in: German
Works in: English to German, German to English
pictorial codes
Habe ich auf der Webseite der Staatlichen Museen zu Berlin gefunden.
http://www.smb.spk-berlin.de/smb/kalender/details.php?objID=...
http://www.smb.spk-berlin.de/smb/kalender/details.php?objID=...
+1
7 hrs
iconics
11 hrs
Stephen Sadie
Germany
Germany
Native in English
Germany
Practical business experience, reliable
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, English to German
Related KudoZ points
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32
non-verbal images
the term seems to fit, but as nesrin also confirms there appears to be no specific specialist term used in your context ... hth
20 hrs
expressive symbols
is used in ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ndebele_house_painting
and many other sites when referring to the use of these images.
I can't confirm it is the "official" term but it would appear to be a common phrase used in this context.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ndebele_house_painting
and many other sites when referring to the use of these images.
I can't confirm it is the "official" term but it would appear to be a common phrase used in this context.
1 day 10 hrs
visual messages
Diese geometrischen Bilder galten als Botschaften in Südafrika und als ein Mittel der Kommunikation.
Example sentence:
Children need useful and practical information communicated through visual messages.
Discussion
"Die Mauern im Außenbereich und Teile der Fassade sind mit geometrischen Ornamenten in kräftig-bunten Farben bemalt. Diese Fassadenbilder werden in Südafrika von den Frauen der Ndebele gemalt und von ihnen als Amagama, Bildbotschaften, bezeichnet. " http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrika-Haus_Freiberg
E.g www.websters-dictionary-online.com/translation/Zulu/ elefuntboy.livejournal.com wiki.ulwazi.org/index.php5?title=Zulu_language - South Africa
Your context seems to be a very specific one.