Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

le moût de raisin en cours de fermentation

English translation:

partially-fermented grape must [hyphen preferred for UK English usage]

Added to glossary by Tony M
Sep 24, 2006 17:51
17 yrs ago
French term

le moût de raisin en cours de fermentation

French to English Other Wine / Oenology / Viticulture
a list of different alcohols
Proposed translations (English)
4 +4 grape must undergoing (OR: during) fermentation
4 +3 must - NFG

Discussion

Chanda Danley (asker) Sep 26, 2006:
What crazy errors I have just made...my head is always quicker than my fingers...it soundS like ...and all of the drinks are ON the list. :)
Chanda Danley (asker) Sep 26, 2006:
Hmmm, to me 'fermenting grape must' sound like it is still physically in the process of being fermented, which would make it hard to sell, and all of these drinks in the list are being sold as is... I have found references for 'partially-fermented grape juice', but since I'm not 100% sure...
Jeanette Phillips Sep 25, 2006:
What about David Sirret's answer "Fermenting grape juice" - could you not have "fermenting grape must" also?
Tony M Sep 25, 2006:
Could work, but it really all depends excatly how the expression is being used.
Chanda Danley (asker) Sep 25, 2006:
I'm now thinking 'partially-fermented must'...any thoughts on this?
Chanda Danley (asker) Sep 24, 2006:
this is a list included in a Swiss ordinance regarding labeling and advertising for all types of alcoholic beverages.... le vin, le moût de raisin en cours de fermentation, le bourru, le jus de raisin en cours de fermentation, les boissons à base de vin, le cidre, le vin de fruits, le jus de fruits à pépins en cours de fermentation, les boissons à base de cidre ou de vins de fruits, l'hydromel, la bière, les boissons spiritueuses, les autres boissons alcoolisées.

I've thought of 'must', but then what is the difference between this and 'le jus de raisin en cours de fermentation'?

Proposed translations

+4
44 mins
Selected

grape must undergoing (OR: during) fermentation

Well, 'moût' is normally 'must', though this could hardly really be described as an alcohol, more likely a stage in the process of producing alcohol; but you aven't really given us enough context to be really sure...

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Note added at 1 hr (2006-09-24 19:21:21 GMT)
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Well, it's certainly 'must', though you'd need to be more of a wine expert to knwo precisely what distinction they are making here; perhaps 'must' is direct from pressing, while 'jus' is other kinds of juice?

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Note added at 1 day15 hrs (2006-09-26 09:06:01 GMT) Post-grading
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Yes, in the light of that vital extra context (being sold 'as is'), I rather agree that 'partially-fermented' is entirely appropriate; and it would also explain the difference between 'grape must' and simply 'grape juice', all depending on what the purchaser intends to use it for....
Note from asker:
this is a list included in a Swiss ordinance regarding labeling and advertising for all types of alcoholic beverages.... le vin, le moût de raisin en cours de fermentation, le bourru, le jus de raisin en cours de fermentation, les boissons à base de vin... and the list continue with beer and other beverages
the list continues...sorry about that mistake
Peer comment(s):

agree a05
16 mins
Spasibo, a05!
agree Bourth (X)
5 hrs
Thanks, Alex!
agree Richard Benham : This is a definite must.
5 hrs
Thanks, RB! You're getting wurst!
agree Michele Fauble
13 hrs
Merci, Michele !
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks for everyone's help on this...I think this is best in this context."
+3
6 hrs

must - NFG

If Wikipedia is to be believed, "moût" contains pulp, skin and seeds in addition to juice.
Peer comment(s):

agree NancyLynn
4 hrs
agree Tony M : Yes, that's what I thought; although in fact, fermentation doesn't usually start until that's been strained off...?
7 hrs
agree Michele Fauble
7 hrs
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