Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
grand bourgeois
English translation:
upper/grande bourgeoisie
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celandine
Mar 3, 2005 04:43
19 yrs ago
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French term
grand bourgeois - upper bourgeois/middle-class
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Does anyone know if the term upper bourgeois or upper-bourgeois is correct... I would prefer not to use upper middle-class if possible and have seen this used...
thanks for your comments
thanks for your comments
Proposed translations
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| 4 +3 | upper bourgeoisie |
David Vaughn
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| 4 | grand bourgeois |
Nick Somers (X)
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| 4 | The French upper classes |
CMJ_Trans (X)
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| 3 | high bourgeois |
olganet
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upper bourgeoisie
This googles better. Bourgeoisie does not correspond to middle-class, at least historically.
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Note added at 19 mins (2005-03-03 05:03:39 GMT)
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ie, grand bourgeois is clearly upper class, it is simply not nobility.
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Note added at 19 mins (2005-03-03 05:03:39 GMT)
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ie, grand bourgeois is clearly upper class, it is simply not nobility.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Jocelyne S
: yes, definitely "bourgeoisie" ; either "upper" or "grande" would work.
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| agree |
Philippe C. (X)
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| agree |
Tony M
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Comment: "thanks again"
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olganet
Works in field
high bourgeois
Subsequent to the Industrial Revolution, the class greatly expanded, and differences within it became more distinct, notably between the high bourgeois (industrialists and bankers) and the petty bourgeois (tradesmen and white-collar workers). By the end of the 19th cent., the capitalists (the original bourgeois) tended to be associated with a widened upper class, while the spread of technology and technical occupations was opening the bourgeoisie to entry from below.
http://www.bartleby.com/65/bo/bourgeoi.html
http://www.bartleby.com/65/bo/bourgeoi.html
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grand bourgeois
Leave it as it is. The newspapers reporting on the recent French minister scandal seem to have done so.
Grande bourgeoisie is even more familiar to English ears.
Grande bourgeoisie is even more familiar to English ears.
Reference:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FRANCE_MINISTERS_HOME?SITE=ORMED&SECTION=INTERNATIONAL
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/courses/rschwart/hist255-s01/mapping-paris/parsian_econ_housing.html
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The French upper classes
or maybe you could just call them "the elite"
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Note added at 2005-03-03 08:05:47 (GMT)
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The old French families
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Note added at 2005-03-03 08:05:47 (GMT)
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The old French families
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