Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Sep 6, 2009 23:37
14 yrs ago
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French term
en sapin
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Military / Defense
Performance testing of military headgear, binoculars and associated devices
1m sur aire de chute normalisée en sapin selon GAM EG13 -
NB this is a performance test for a mixed sources battery charger
NB this is a performance test for a mixed sources battery charger
Proposed translations
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| 3 +4 | fir wood |
Howard Cooper
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| 4 | pine wood surface |
jmleger
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| 4 | "V shape" |
Philippe Lascourrèges
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References
| Quality difference |
B D Finch
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| drop area/surface |
Bourth (X)
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Change log
Sep 20, 2009 12:33: Howard Cooper Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
+4
3 hrs
Selected
fir wood
I'm not sure how that fits with your source. The only meaning I can find for "aire de chute" is "landing area"...
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B D Finch
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Kari Foster
: Certainly
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Clive Phillips
: 1m drop test on fir wood surface to GAM EG13 standard.
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André Vanasse (X)
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Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
44 mins
pine wood surface
I think that this is what they mean.
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Note added at 12 hrs (2009-09-07 11:48:48 GMT)
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It does seem like fir wood surface would be the right translation
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Note added at 12 hrs (2009-09-07 11:48:48 GMT)
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It does seem like fir wood surface would be the right translation
Peer comment(s):
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Pierre POUSSIN
5 hrs
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B D Finch
: "sapin" is "fir" as opposed to "pin" which is pine. There's a difference in the quality of timber.
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1 day 22 hrs
"V shape"
V shape dropping zone
ou ? "fir tree" dropping zone
ou ? "fir tree" dropping zone
Reference comments
9 hrs
Reference:
Quality difference
The quality difference means that it matters whether this is pine or, poorer quality, fir.
"Pine stretcher bars are superior in quality and finish to that of fir bars which most canvas printing companies use. The bars are heavier and over the years ..."
www.canvasdezign.co.uk/.../new-pine-bars-being-used-for-can...
"Many of the commercially valuable softwoods belong to the family Pinaceae, the most important of which are dealt with below. Other significant softwoods include the redwood, Sequoia sempervirens (D. Don) Endl. (Taxodiaceae), the hemlock, Tsuga spp. (Pinaceae) and the cedar of Lebanon, Cedrus libani A. Rich (Pinaceae).
Firs belong to the genus Abies (Pinaceae). To the non-expert, the vernacular terms 'pine' and 'fir' can cause confusion. There are about 40 species of fir tree, all native to North and Central America, Europe, Asia and North Africa. Many of the coniferous species with common names containing the term 'fir' are not true firs belonging to Abies; an example of this is Pinus sylvestris L., sometimes erroneously called the Scots fir. ..."
"Pine stretcher bars are superior in quality and finish to that of fir bars which most canvas printing companies use. The bars are heavier and over the years ..."
www.canvasdezign.co.uk/.../new-pine-bars-being-used-for-can...
"Many of the commercially valuable softwoods belong to the family Pinaceae, the most important of which are dealt with below. Other significant softwoods include the redwood, Sequoia sempervirens (D. Don) Endl. (Taxodiaceae), the hemlock, Tsuga spp. (Pinaceae) and the cedar of Lebanon, Cedrus libani A. Rich (Pinaceae).
Firs belong to the genus Abies (Pinaceae). To the non-expert, the vernacular terms 'pine' and 'fir' can cause confusion. There are about 40 species of fir tree, all native to North and Central America, Europe, Asia and North Africa. Many of the coniferous species with common names containing the term 'fir' are not true firs belonging to Abies; an example of this is Pinus sylvestris L., sometimes erroneously called the Scots fir. ..."
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Bourth (X)
: Though I wonder how much difference it actually makes to the effect on a battery of being dropped from 1m.
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Perhaps they are trying to save money? The glossary entry should be accurate all the same.
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Reference:
drop area/surface
GAM EG 13 is:
GAM EG 13. Essais généraux en environnement des matériels. BASIC ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING PROCEDURES. 1989, Guide for conducting environment test. ...
www.nato.int/docu/stanag/randmstan/france_d.htm
ENVIRONMENTAL
_ Salt spray : 96 hours
_ Temperature range : -10°C, +70°C
_ Sinus vibrations : in compliance with GAM EG13 - 41
_ Randon vibrations, in compliance with GAM EG13 - 42
_ Shocks : in compliance with GAM EG13 – 43
(excuse their English)
http://www.souriau.com/fileadmin/Souriau/product_pdf/PYRO.pd...
You know how sometimes you drop one of your mother's fine crystal glasses? If you're in the living room on deep pile carpet, there's a goodly chance it will survive; if you're on the wood floor of sapin selon GAM EG13 in the hallway there's a very slim chance of its surviving: but if you're on the hard tiled floor of the kitchen, no way is it not going to smash into a million pieces.
To determine the impact resistance of equipment, you have to have a standardized "drop surface", or a standardized drop hammer, etc.
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Note added at 13 hrs (2009-09-07 13:16:56 GMT)
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Re. pine vs fir, as I've said before, it's a pain:
Britannica, for example, says of pine :
Any of 10 genera of coniferous trees (rarely shrubs) of the family Pinaceae (see conifer), native to northern temperate regions, especially about 90 species of ornamental and timber evergreen conifers of the genus Pinus. Needlelike leaves and cones are solitary or in bunches. Shallow root systems make pines susceptible to wind and surface disturbance. THE FAMILY INCLUDES FIR, DOUGLAS FIR, hemlock, SPRUCE, larch, and cedar.
GAM EG 13. Essais généraux en environnement des matériels. BASIC ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING PROCEDURES. 1989, Guide for conducting environment test. ...
www.nato.int/docu/stanag/randmstan/france_d.htm
ENVIRONMENTAL
_ Salt spray : 96 hours
_ Temperature range : -10°C, +70°C
_ Sinus vibrations : in compliance with GAM EG13 - 41
_ Randon vibrations, in compliance with GAM EG13 - 42
_ Shocks : in compliance with GAM EG13 – 43
(excuse their English)
http://www.souriau.com/fileadmin/Souriau/product_pdf/PYRO.pd...
You know how sometimes you drop one of your mother's fine crystal glasses? If you're in the living room on deep pile carpet, there's a goodly chance it will survive; if you're on the wood floor of sapin selon GAM EG13 in the hallway there's a very slim chance of its surviving: but if you're on the hard tiled floor of the kitchen, no way is it not going to smash into a million pieces.
To determine the impact resistance of equipment, you have to have a standardized "drop surface", or a standardized drop hammer, etc.
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Note added at 13 hrs (2009-09-07 13:16:56 GMT)
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Re. pine vs fir, as I've said before, it's a pain:
Britannica, for example, says of pine :
Any of 10 genera of coniferous trees (rarely shrubs) of the family Pinaceae (see conifer), native to northern temperate regions, especially about 90 species of ornamental and timber evergreen conifers of the genus Pinus. Needlelike leaves and cones are solitary or in bunches. Shallow root systems make pines susceptible to wind and surface disturbance. THE FAMILY INCLUDES FIR, DOUGLAS FIR, hemlock, SPRUCE, larch, and cedar.
Discussion
It's hard to see how landing (aire de chute) in a pine forest could be relevant to a battery charger, unless it's dropped from an aircraft. Is there more to go on?