Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

fenêtre à coussiège

English translation:

window seat

Added to glossary by Miranda Joubioux (X)
Jun 29, 2007 06:50
17 yrs ago
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French term

fenêtre à coussiège

French to English Art/Literary Architecture Manor house
Context - description of the interior of a manor house
Même si son aspect reste dépouillé, cette chambre devait être plutôt confortable : une cheminée en encorbellement de style Renaissance réchauffe la pièce, l’accès aux latrines est direct et une petite fenêtre à coussièges donne une vue agréable sur le parc.

Here's a picture I found on the web (nothing to do with my text).
http://www.castlelalatte.com/images/Image6.gif

Would this be a common "window seat"?

Discussion

Christopher Crockett Jun 29, 2007:
Curious, I can't find it in the TLF. It does appear to be stone and, more important, "dans l'embrasure d'une fenêtre." But It still *could* be a bay window, in stone, again considering that belle "vue agréable." Just can't say for sure, without a pic.
Miranda Joubioux (X) (asker) Jun 29, 2007:
All my research points towards coussiège as meaning "stone seat"
http://medieval.lacorreze.com/glossaire1_architecture_mediev...
Christopher Crockett Jun 29, 2007:
Or a window window-seat.

At a Renaissance date, it is *possible* that it could be a question of a bay/bow window with window seats (which is not what your castlelalatte.com/images/Image6.gif example is), esp. considering the "vue agréable."
Bourth (X) Jun 29, 2007:
In the absence of anything better, yes, I think you need to expand it, otherwise you have a window-seat window!
HelenG Jun 29, 2007:
Hi Miranda, Yes I think you are on the right lines - perhaps something along the lines of a "recessed window or embrasure with a window-seat". See this link: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coussiège

Proposed translations

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window seat

I think you are right, see here (picture):

Below: view of the southwest tower at Narberth Castle ... throughout a bastion of English influence in the area. Below right: Window seat in Southwest Tower ...
www.castlewales.com/narberth.html
Note from asker:
Thanks
Peer comment(s):

agree mlechevalier (X)
4 hrs
neutral Christopher Crockett : Since it is a "petite fenêtre" (with seats), it's probably not a bay(/bow) window. But it's not a "window seat," it's a "deeply recessed window with window seats."
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neutral HelenG : Once again, I agree with Christopher.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "This document is for tourists visiting the manor in question. So I do not need to go into the detail of whether it is recessed or not, so I opted for window seat, since I do not have a picture of it's actual design. It is definitely not a bow window."
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bow window

Lamy Tradition - Immobilier, propriété, château, manoir, France ...Bay window or bow window Fenêtre en rotonde. ..... Coussiège Banc de pierre aménagé dans l'ébrasement d'une fenêtre ou d'une archère. ...
www.lamytradition.com/common/code/b2c/glo_b2c.asp?_Language... - 195k - En cache - Pages similaires

Glossaire de l'architecture - WikipédiaBow-window - Oriel. Bracon - Poutre qui soutient les portes d'une écluse. .... Coussiège - Banc ménagé dans l'embrasure d'une fenêtre, souvent de pierre, ...
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossaire_de_l'architecture - 100k -
Peer comment(s):

neutral Christopher Crockett : Non. A "bay" or "bow" window has three windows, a central one parallel to the wall, flanked by two set at an angle, out to it. But, we *might* be dealing with a bay window with window-seats (which is not what the castlelalatte.com site's picture is of).
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neutral HelenG : I agree with Christopher. I thought of bay window initially but is not the right term - it conveys not just that the window is recessed but most importantly, that it has window-seats: not all bay windows have window seats.
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Helen's right

"recessed window with a window-seat (or -seats)" sounds good to me.

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Note added at 7 hrs (2007-06-29 14:44:05 GMT)
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Definitely "-seats," since your text is plural (and it's hard to imagine just one).
Note from asker:
Thanks for this suggestion. It was also a possibility, but in the context of the document I prefer to remain a little vague
Peer comment(s):

agree HelenG : Yes. This is the only option that conveys the whole meaning. Btw, is your name really Christopher Crockett? Any relation to Davy? Yes, I like it when we all arrive at a consensus of opinion;-)! Amazing name!
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So, you agree with yourself. That's Progress. Yes, CC is both my real name and my Nom de Proz. And I had a favorite uncle named Davy.
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2 days 4 hrs

apse window seat

something extra and a little more in keeping with a manor house

apse , apsis

a domed or vaulted recess or projection on a building especially the east end of a church; usually contains the altar
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