Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
much of the elite
English answer:
Correct usage- 'the elite' is a collective noun
Added to glossary by
Anton Baer
Jan 14, 2007 18:18
17 yrs ago
English term
much of the elite
English
Social Sciences
Linguistics
Arabic was spoken by much of the educated Ottoman elite.
I can't understand why "much" is used with a countable noun "elite". Is it correct? or should I change it to"many of the Ottoman elite"
I can't understand why "much" is used with a countable noun "elite". Is it correct? or should I change it to"many of the Ottoman elite"
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+14
7 mins
Selected
Correct usage- 'the elite' is a collective noun
Here's a good link:
http://www.translationdirectory.com/article1123.htm
"Quirk et al (ibid) present a distinction of collective nouns. There are three subclasses of these nouns: (a) specific (b) generic and (c) unique. Examples which are not exhaustive include the following (See the table )... "
(Below are examples of collective generic nouns)
The aristocracy
The bourgeoisie
The clergy
The elite
The gentry
The intelligentsia
The laity
The proletariat
The public
"As far as concord is concerned, collectives take singular or plural verbs depending on their meaning. When you consider the group as one unit, you use a singular verb."
http://www.translationdirectory.com/article1123.htm
"Quirk et al (ibid) present a distinction of collective nouns. There are three subclasses of these nouns: (a) specific (b) generic and (c) unique. Examples which are not exhaustive include the following (See the table )... "
(Below are examples of collective generic nouns)
The aristocracy
The bourgeoisie
The clergy
The elite
The gentry
The intelligentsia
The laity
The proletariat
The public
"As far as concord is concerned, collectives take singular or plural verbs depending on their meaning. When you consider the group as one unit, you use a singular verb."
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
+10
3 mins
"elite" is being used as a term for the group here
so I think it's fine. Many, would be OK, thinking of them as individuals, with "the elite" being shorthand for "the elite people".
Peer comment(s):
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Lorenia de la Vega
0 min
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Thanks!
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agree |
Can Altinbay
5 mins
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Thank you.
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agree |
Kim Metzger
: http://www.answers.com/topic/english-collective-nouns
11 mins
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Thanks, and thanks for the link.
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agree |
Michael Barnett
57 mins
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Thanks, Michael.
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agree |
William [Bill] Gray
1 hr
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Thanks!
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Robert Fox
4 hrs
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Thanks, Robert.
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agree |
ErichEko ⟹⭐
10 hrs
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Thank you, Erich.
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Peter Shortall
17 hrs
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Thanks much, Peter.
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Sophia Finos (X)
19 hrs
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Thanks, Sophia.
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anastasia t (X)
8 days
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Thanks, anastasia.
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13 days
Majority of the elite
Here much is used to denote the fact that majority of the elite people spoke Arabic.
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