Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

much of the elite

English answer:

Correct usage- 'the elite' is a collective noun

Added to glossary by Anton Baer
Jan 14, 2007 18:18
17 yrs ago
English term

much of the elite

English Social Sciences Linguistics
Arabic was spoken by much of the educated Ottoman elite.

I can't understand why "much" is used with a countable noun "elite". Is it correct? or should I change it to"many of the Ottoman elite"

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+14
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Correct usage- 'the elite' is a collective noun

Here's a good link:
http://www.translationdirectory.com/article1123.htm

"Quirk et al (ibid) present a distinction of collective nouns. There are three subclasses of these nouns: (a) specific (b) generic and (c) unique. Examples which are not exhaustive include the following (See the table )... "

(Below are examples of collective generic nouns)

The aristocracy
The bourgeoisie
The clergy
The elite
The gentry
The intelligentsia
The laity
The proletariat
The public

"As far as concord is concerned, collectives take singular or plural verbs depending on their meaning. When you consider the group as one unit, you use a singular verb."
Peer comment(s):

agree erika rubinstein
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agree Can Altinbay
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agree garci
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agree Kim Metzger : http://www.answers.com/topic/english-collective-nouns
7 mins
agree Michael Barnett
53 mins
agree NancyLynn
1 hr
agree William [Bill] Gray : Nice explanation, and link. Good work, Heinrick!
1 hr
agree Melissa Stanfield
1 hr
agree Robert Fox
4 hrs
agree Peter Shortall
17 hrs
agree Sophia Finos (X)
19 hrs
agree Isabelle Bouchet
3 days 14 hrs
agree Alfa Trans (X)
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agree anastasia t (X)
8 days
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+10
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"elite" is being used as a term for the group here

so I think it's fine. Many, would be OK, thinking of them as individuals, with "the elite" being shorthand for "the elite people".
Peer comment(s):

agree Lorenia de la Vega
0 min
Thanks!
agree Can Altinbay
5 mins
Thank you.
agree Kim Metzger : http://www.answers.com/topic/english-collective-nouns
11 mins
Thanks, and thanks for the link.
agree Michael Barnett
57 mins
Thanks, Michael.
agree William [Bill] Gray
1 hr
Thanks!
agree Robert Fox
4 hrs
Thanks, Robert.
agree ErichEko ⟹⭐
10 hrs
Thank you, Erich.
agree Peter Shortall
17 hrs
Thanks much, Peter.
agree Sophia Finos (X)
19 hrs
Thanks, Sophia.
agree anastasia t (X)
8 days
Thanks, anastasia.
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13 days

Majority of the elite

Here much is used to denote the fact that majority of the elite people spoke Arabic.
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