Jun 22 09:22
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French term

une grandeur entière, « quantifiée »

French to English Science Science (general) tunnel junctions
Context:
Le champ électrique n’a pas pour effet de déformer les skyrmions ferroélectriques 22 du fait de leur propriété topologique. Aussi, la fraction de dipôles pointant vers une des électrodes 14 ou 16 est déterminée par le nombre de skyrmions ferroélectriques 22, une grandeur entière, « quantifiée ».

Editing task, as usual. Translated as
an integer quantized quantity.
My own take on it is
a quantified integer.
Any AI experts out there able to shed a bit of light on this?
TIA Chris.

Discussion

1.4 Glossary form must be maintained. Question marks, quote marks, unnecessary capitalization and anything else that would not be found in a dictionary, should not be entered.
https://www.proz.com/siterules/kudoz_general/1.4#1.4
Bashiqa (asker) Jun 22:
@ Tony Thanks. This explanation gives me hope that the old grey matter is still working. In Spain at the moment, so will have to take "a wine break", Chris.
Tony M Jun 22:
@ Chris The 'integer' bit comes from 'entière'.
The 'grandeur' is usually used as 'dimension' — not in terms of measurements, but rather as in a 'space/time dimension', etc.
Sometimes we have dimensions that don't have units; here, however, it can only take integer values: '1 glass of wine or two glassses of wine', but not '1.375 glasses of wine'
And quantifié because the quantity needs to be given
Sakshi Garg Jun 22:
@Bashiqa Yes, it is integer and not dimension. Please refer to link I posted in my answer
Bashiqa (asker) Jun 22:
@ Tony we also have
the electrodes are selected from among the list constituted of La1-xSrxMnO3, La1-xCaxMnO3, Ca1-x-xCexMnO3, BaxSr1-xRuO3, BaPbO3, LaNiO3, La1-x SrxTiO3, RuO2, conductive indium tin oxide, TiN, Pt, Au and Pd, x being a variable between 0 and 1.
I think it is integer and not dimension in this case. However, I do stand to be corrected.
Tony M Jun 22:
@ Asker I read it like you — though do also note that 'grandeur' is more usually 'dimension', which might help make sense of it here.

Proposed translations

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A integer quantized quantity/a quantified integer

Superconducting Tunnel Junctions as Direct Detectors for Submillimeter Astronomy >
A Dissertation Presented to the Faculty of the Graduate School of Yale University in Candidacy for the Degree of Doctor of Philosophy >
by John Daniel Teufel
https://rsl.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/RSL_Theses/Jo...
Peer comment(s):

agree Johannes Gleim : a quantified integer
2 hrs
Thank you, Johannes!
agree Francois Boye : An integer
6 hrs
Thank you, Francois!
disagree Mpoma : "An" before a vowel. And, in this case, "quantised" (why use U.S. spelling without justification?) must come before "integer". "Magnitude" is the scientific word in this context. The final semi-expression also doesn't make sense. Hedging your bets?
9 hrs
disagree Andrew Bramhall : With Mpoma;
11 hrs
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entire quantized

Very reliable sources, many occurences.

https://www.google.com/search?q="entire quantized"&sca_esv=0...
Example sentence:

To achieve greater coding efficiency, MP3 subdivides the entire quantized spectrum into three regions.

b k q is defined as the quantized innovation vector which comprises the entire quantized innovation history to the current time k

Peer comment(s):

disagree Tony M : Meaningless in EN, and irrelevant to the context here /Yes, but they are simply fortuitous collocations, nothing to do with the context here.
39 mins
Did you even bother to look at the examples? How is this "meaningless"? Really?
disagree Mpoma : Quantum physics uses extremely specific terms. So does maths: "integer" is the right word here, even without the quantum context.
9 hrs
Entière and quantifiée are adjectives here, right?
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10 hrs

a "quantised" integer magnitude

The context is quantum mechanics, etc.

I'm aware that Tony M is The Man when it comes to all things LX, and no doubt quantum theory, so if he squashes my answer I'll be interested to see any comment he might make.

The only thing here which appears of passing interest is the use of the guillemets. I suspect this is just a passing acknowledgement of the fact that this adjective also exists outside the quantum theory world, but also that, given the context, it is also redundant.

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Note added at 10 heures (2024-06-22 19:45:34 GMT)
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... in fact I should have said "exists outside ... in FRENCH". Since "quantised" *doesn't* have this non-specialist wider meaning in English there's no doubt a strong case for dropping the quotes in English.
Note from asker:
FWIW I see nothing wrong with "...." in your answer, on the contrary it highlights an unusual word, and does not warrant disagree.
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard
8 hrs
Thanks
neutral Johannes Gleim : I don't believe in 'magnitude'.
12 hrs
disagree Sakshi Garg : It's not about magnitude, also, none references to prove it is a magnitude.
12 hrs
disagree Wilsonn Perez Reyes : Question marks, quote marks, unnecessary capitalization and anything else that would not be found in a dictionary, should not be entered. https://www.proz.com/siterules/kudoz_general/1.4#1.4
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Reference comments

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Reference:

ferromagnetic skyrmions and termes

Le skyrmion est une particule théorisée en 1962 par le physicien britannique Tony Skyrme et dont la découverte a été annoncée en 2009 par des physiciens de l'Université technique de Munich
Un skyrmion est une superposition quantique de baryons et d'états de résonance2.
Récemment, on appelle aussi skyrmion magnétique une structure de spin similaire à un vortex ou tourbillon de spin.
C'est sous la forme du vortex de spin que les physiciens allemands ont fait leur découverte1
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyrmion

In particle theory, the skyrmion (/ˈskɜːrmi.ɒn/) is a topologically stable field configuration of a certain class of non-linear sigma models. It was originally proposed as a model of the nucleon by (and named after) Tony Skyrme in 1961.[1][2][3][4] As a topological soliton in the pion field, it has the remarkable property of being able to model, with reasonable accuracy, multiple low-energy properties of the nucleon, simply by fixing the nucleon radius. It has since found application in solid-state physics, as well as having ties to certain areas of string theory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyrmion

Controllable creation of skyrmion bags in a ferromagnetic nanodisk
https://journals.aps.org/prb/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevB.107.2...

For example, a magnetic skyrmion is a potential building block for the next generation of electronic devices due to its small size, good stability and low driving current threshold. However, the Magnus force acting on a ferromagnetic skyrmion can induce a transverse motion perpendicular to the driving force, which may lead to the destruction of skyrmions at sample edges.
https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2020/nr/c9nr1...

Area Quantities and units / Basic concepts
IEV ref 112-01-01
Symbol Q
En quantity
property of a phenomenon, body, or substance, where the property has a magnitude that can be expressed by means of a number and a reference
fr grandeur, f
propriété d'un phénomène, d'un corps ou d'une substance, que l’on peut exprimer quantitativement au moyen d’un nombre et d’une référence
https://www.electropedia.org/iev/iev.nsf/display?openform&ie...

Area Mathematics - General concepts and linear algebra / Numbers
IEV ref 102-02-02
en integer; element of the unlimited totally ordered set {..., −2, −1, 0, 1, 2, ...}
Note 1 to entry: The set of integers is the smallest set of mathematical entities that includes the natural numbers and for which the operation of subtraction is defined for any two entities. The operations of addition and multiplication are also defined for any two integers. Any integer has a negative.
fr nombre entier, m; entier, m
élément de l'ensemble totalement ordonné et illimité {..., −2, −1, 0, 1, 2, ...}
https://www.electropedia.org/iev/iev.nsf/display?openform&ie...

Area Transmission / Quantizing in pulse code modulation (in PCM)
IEV ref 704-24-03
en quantized value ; the single discrete value used to represent any value in a particular quantizing interval
fr valeur quantifiée, f
amplitude quantifiée (terme déconseillé dans ce sens) f
valeur unique représentant toute valeur se trouvant dans un intervalle de quantification particulier
https://www.electropedia.org/iev/iev.nsf/display?openform&ie...
Note from asker:
Thank you. I might sometimes get annoyed about the number of references you list, but in this case the info is spot on.
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Daryo
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Reference:

Ref.

just out of interest, how do you reach the conclusion of "integrer"?

https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/tech-engineerin...

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Note added at 1 dzień   4 godz. (2024-06-23 13:53:53 GMT)
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sorry, "integer"

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Note added at 1 dzień   4 godz. (2024-06-23 13:57:55 GMT)
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https://ics.utc.fr/PS90/chapitre1/co/definition-grandeur

Définition d'une grandeur
Définition

Une grandeur est définie comme attribut d'un phénomène, d'un corps ou d'une substance chimique, physique ou biologique, qui est susceptible d'être distinguée qualitativement et déterminée quantitativement (tirée de la Norme française NF X 07-001 de décembre 1994 "Vocabulaire international des termes fondamentaux et généraux de métrologie").

La grandeur est caractérisée par une valeur numérique et une unité, qui sont indissociables. Ainsi, attribuer une valeur numérique à une grandeur sans en préciser l'unité n'a aucun sens.

On peut classer les grandeurs en deux catégories: les grandeurs mesurables et les grandeurs repérables

Grandeur mesurable : Une grandeur est dite mesurable si on peut lui affecter une valeur numérique à partir d'observations. En outre, la somme et/ou le produit de grandeurs mesurables a une signification. Parmi les grandeurs mesurables, on peut citer la longueur, la température absolue, la résistance,...

Grandeur repérable : Une grandeur est dite repérable si la somme et le produit de cette grandeur n'ont pas de sens. Parmi les grandeurs repérables, on peut citer la température centésimale (°C), la date, le potentiel électrique,...

Dimension : La dimension caractérise la nature de la grandeur et définit les unités utilisables.
Note from asker:
Integer from entiere, although I stand to be corrected.
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