| Pages in topic: < [1 2] | First proofreading assignment - and I guess it is badly paid. Should I take it? Thread poster: mafia (X)
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| Not off-topic at all | Dec 19, 2008 |
Nicole Schnell wrote:
Sorry, off topic. 
Not at all. The things you pointed out invite this type of proposal. If I do not appear serious or professional, I should not expect anyone to exhibit those qualities, or treat me as such. As we say in Spanish, "el hábito no hace el monje... pero lo distingue", roughly, it is not the cowl that makes the monk... but it sure distinguishes him.
| | | | | You've got to be kidding! | Dec 19, 2008 |
Really! I mean what is the world coming to? I'm glad you didn't take the job.
| | | | Valentin Cirdei 
Romania
Local time: 06:00
Member (2006)
English to Romanian
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mafia wrote:
I have a proofreading job of about 30,000 words, but they only pay me for the words that have changed. Should I take it?
Of course. Just ask them where the mistakes are
| | | | | someone out there have probably accepted the offer | Dec 19, 2008 |
My Hue McGowran wrote:
Really! I mean what is the world coming to? I'm glad you didn't take the job.
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Andrea Riffo
Chile
Local time: 01:00
English to Spanish
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Valentin Cirdei wrote:
mafia wrote:
I have a proofreading job of about 30,000 words, but they only pay me for the words that have changed. Should I take it?
Of course. Just ask them where the mistakes are
You made my day
Andrea
[Edited at 2008-12-19 19:39 GMT]
| | | | Fabio Descalzi
Uruguay
Local time: 01:00
Member (2004)
German to Spanish
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| Topic, please | Dec 19, 2008 |
Dear ProZians posting at this thread,
I have just de-vetted three posts. This forum is all about "proofreading / editing", and this very thread deals with an (interesting) issue regarding what should be charged for a concrete job.
Nicole Schnell briefly posted to make a suggestion to the thread poster, noticing by the way that she was a bit off-topic. But in fact, some people went on discussing Nicole's suggestion. This... See more Dear ProZians posting at this thread,
I have just de-vetted three posts. This forum is all about "proofreading / editing", and this very thread deals with an (interesting) issue regarding what should be charged for a concrete job.
Nicole Schnell briefly posted to make a suggestion to the thread poster, noticing by the way that she was a bit off-topic. But in fact, some people went on discussing Nicole's suggestion. This cannot be done.
http://www.proz.com/siterules/forum/4#4 - "Replies should not stray from the posted topic. When responding to a topic initiated by another member, stick to the topic as introduced. To change the discussion, it is necessary to post a new topic."
So, I kindly invite persons whose posts have been hidden to edit them. This forum is not a place for discussing profiles.
Best regards,
Fabio Descalzi ▲ Collapse
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Dawn Montague
United States
Local time: 23:00
German to English
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| I wonder if there was a misunderstanding | Dec 19, 2008 |
mafia wrote:
I have a proofreading job of about 30,000 words, but they only pay me for the words that have changed. Should I take it?
I wonder if there was a misunderstanding here. I often get jobs where I am only supposed to edit the "words that have been changed." This means that an already translated document had additional changes made to it after it was finished the first time. Maybe some new information come to light that needed to be inserted, or somebody decided they didn't like the first version. This sometimes happens with patient information sheets for clinical trials, and those changes need to be checked. You can tell where they are by the "Track Changes" markings or highlighting. These are usually paid by the hour because I have to search out the passages, make sure I know the context, etc. That might be useful information for the future - you wouldn't know whether that is what this company wanted unless you had an opportunity to ask more questions, however.
The reason I wonder about this is because offering to pay per word changed, and that's all, is so incredibly absurd.
[Edited at 2008-12-20 00:11 GMT]
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English to Bosnian
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| A Genuinely Grotesque Situation | Dec 20, 2008 |
Imagine a doctor performing a check-up on a patient, but he/she will only be paid should they find an illness or a poorly-functioning organ in a patient.
Otherwise, with healthy patients - no pay for the GP.
[Edited at 2008-12-20 00:28 GMT]
| | | | | That's how I understood it | Dec 21, 2008 |
[quote]Dawn Montague wrote:
mafia wrote:
I wonder if there was a misunderstanding here. I often get jobs where I am only supposed to edit the "words that have been changed."
Dawn
I too understood Mafia's original post that way - that the agency only wanted to pay for parts of the text that had ALREADY BEEN altered - and not that they only wanted to pay for parts Mafia was GOING to alter, which of course, would be ridiculous.
Fiona
| | | | Samuel Murray
Netherlands
Local time: 05:00
Member (2006)
English to Afrikaans
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| Are you sure you understood the brief correctly? | Dec 23, 2008 |
mafia wrote:
I have a proofreading job of about 30,000 words, but they only pay me for the words that have changed.
Is it possible that they mean that you'll be receiving an updated translation, and that they want you to review only the text that have changed since the previous version? I mean, if their text from 2007 was extensively reviewed and corrected, and their text from 2008 is 20% different from it, could they perhaps mean that they want you to review only the 20% that is a new translation?
In other words, the entire text is 30 000 words long, but you don't have to review all 30 000 words. The newly translated paragraphs are be marked in a different colour, for example, and then your job is to review only the new text. It's quite nice actually, for it means that you can see the new stuff in context, and you can see the old stuff more easily too.
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| Thanks and ... another suggestion | Dec 30, 2008 |
Thanks for the discussion on this topic. I am considering a proofing job and had no guidelines to go by in terms of pricing. It is indeed a more complicated area than just translation charged by word, and I am uncomfortable with charging by hour inasmuch as that is a very subjective form and open to question by the outsourcer. Charging by text changed / retranslated is open to other pitfalls, as mentioned. I believe I will charge a flat fee for the whole document based on, say, USD 0.02 per w... See more Thanks for the discussion on this topic. I am considering a proofing job and had no guidelines to go by in terms of pricing. It is indeed a more complicated area than just translation charged by word, and I am uncomfortable with charging by hour inasmuch as that is a very subjective form and open to question by the outsourcer. Charging by text changed / retranslated is open to other pitfalls, as mentioned. I believe I will charge a flat fee for the whole document based on, say, USD 0.02 per word, plus a regular translation fee per word if the average re-translated words per page exceed three.
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