Jan 16, 2019 12:17
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Portuguese term
Brazil
Native in: Portuguese 
Works in: English to Portuguese, Portuguese to English, Spanish to Portuguese, and 3 more.
É a teoria da relação da ocupação fática. teoria da ocupação/ ocupação fática
Portuguese to English
Law/Patents
Law: Contract(s)
teoria da relação de trabalho
Hi Can anybody help me with this translation? It is formal writing.
I translated as "the theory of the relationship of the factual occupation" but not satisfied the paragraphs are:
"Os autores alemães defendem a teoria da incorporação, em que o contrato nada mais cria do que uma relação obrigacional, sujeita aos princípios gerais do direito das obrigações. É a teoria da relação da ocupação fática."
"Verifica-se, diante deste posicionamento doutrinário, que a teoria da relação de trabalho se subdivide em teoria da ocupação, ocupação fática ou incorporação."
Thank you
I translated as "the theory of the relationship of the factual occupation" but not satisfied the paragraphs are:
"Os autores alemães defendem a teoria da incorporação, em que o contrato nada mais cria do que uma relação obrigacional, sujeita aos princípios gerais do direito das obrigações. É a teoria da relação da ocupação fática."
"Verifica-se, diante deste posicionamento doutrinário, que a teoria da relação de trabalho se subdivide em teoria da ocupação, ocupação fática ou incorporação."
Thank you
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | de facto employment relationship |
Gilmar Fernandes
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| 4 | It's the theory of the relationship of factual occupation. theory of occupation / factual occupation |
Oliver Simões
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Proposed translations
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Gilmar Fernandes
United States
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de facto employment relationship
Apparently this is originally a German concept which was translated to Portuguese.
Some examples here:
https://tinyurl.com/yaw22j4s
Some examples here:
https://tinyurl.com/yaw22j4s
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you for your help. I read a bit more, and you can find info if you google the "de facto employment relationship" and it made sense with the rest of the text."
34 mins
Oliver Simões
United States
United States
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BA in Transl., MA in ESL, 15 yrs of exp.
Native in: Portuguese 
Works in: English to Portuguese, Portuguese to English, Spanish to Portuguese, and 2 more.
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It's the theory of the relationship of factual occupation. theory of occupation / factual occupation
I found no reference to such theories. However, I did find the following context, which mentions "factual occupation":
"Lack of international legal personality as peoples, tribes, or nations meant that Indigenous peoples occupation of territory was acknowledged as factual occupation, not recognizable by law, ..."
https://books.google.com/books?id=fGveqwzpzOEC&pg=PA242&lpg=...
PS: For future reference, I suggest breaking down the terms rather than lumping them all together.
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Note added at 36 mins (2019-01-16 12:54:05 GMT)
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Note: It seems to me the sentence with the word "relationship" is poorly worded. Normally, when we talk about a relationship, there is always a correlation, for example, the relationship between A and B. The sentence sounds incomplete and nonsensical.
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Note added at 54 mins (2019-01-16 13:12:04 GMT)
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PS: I meant the last sentence of the paragraph starting with "Os autores alemães" and ending with "É a teoria da relação da ocupação fática."
"Lack of international legal personality as peoples, tribes, or nations meant that Indigenous peoples occupation of territory was acknowledged as factual occupation, not recognizable by law, ..."
https://books.google.com/books?id=fGveqwzpzOEC&pg=PA242&lpg=...
PS: For future reference, I suggest breaking down the terms rather than lumping them all together.
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Note added at 36 mins (2019-01-16 12:54:05 GMT)
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Note: It seems to me the sentence with the word "relationship" is poorly worded. Normally, when we talk about a relationship, there is always a correlation, for example, the relationship between A and B. The sentence sounds incomplete and nonsensical.
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Note added at 54 mins (2019-01-16 13:12:04 GMT)
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PS: I meant the last sentence of the paragraph starting with "Os autores alemães" and ending with "É a teoria da relação da ocupação fática."
Note from asker:
| "de facto employment relationship" was better but I just wanted to thank you for your effort. |
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