Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

industriefern

English translation:

unrelated to the industry

Added to glossary by BrigitteHilgner
Nov 7, 2014 17:15
9 yrs ago
German term

industriefern

German to English Tech/Engineering Metallurgy / Casting Steel industry
This is really not limited to the steel industry, but I encountered it in this context:

"Die Wettbewerbsintensität steigt und damit die Sensibilität für industrieferne Politische Rahmenbedingungen."

I'm not sure whether this means "taking place apart from industry" or "hostile (or indifferent) to industry."

I've even seen this term used where it seems to mean "geographically remote."

Thanks for your help!

Andrew Hudson
Change log

Nov 21, 2014 06:17: BrigitteHilgner Created KOG entry

Discussion

Björn Vrooman Nov 9, 2014:
@Andrew I have no idea why there are so many agreements to an answer that is totally "unrelated" to the question (pardon the pun).

"industriefern" is a play with words, originating from "realitätsfern", which means not paying attention to current regulatory needs in a certain industry - just someone making rules...whether they help the steel industry or not.

Your sentence says:
Because competition is increasing, people in the industry are getting more sensitive to any regulatory framework that is not matching current industry needs/any regulations that are creating market barriers.

The politicians spoken of here do stipulate requirements related to the industry, but the regulations they force upon the market are "out of touch" (as in the second answer) with the market's current development and they will probably only hamper growth.

Michael Martin, MA Nov 7, 2014:
@AndrewH712 Yes, perhaps. This might imply a certain wariness even though that's not explicitly stated. It suggests that corporates are aware they will draw more government scrutiny (and possibly more regulation) in times of heated competition. Governments presume there will be temptations to gain an edge by illicit means. Depending on the importance of an industry for foreign trade, it could also be used as a bargaining chip in negotiations with foreign entities.
Dr. Andrew Hudson (asker) Nov 7, 2014:
This is from an article about the future of the steel industry, and "outside industry boundaries" or "outside the industry" seem to be accurate.
philgoddard Nov 7, 2014:
Could we have a bit more context, please? What does it say before and after this?
You say it's not limited to the steel industry, which suggests that Brigitte's suggestion of "the industry" isn't correct. Industrie often means manufacturing.
Dr. Andrew Hudson (asker) Nov 7, 2014:
Michael, would "sensitivity for political conditions" imply a type of wariness, meaning that such political decisions might negatively affect the steel trade? Sensitivity in what sense?

Proposed translations

+5
14 mins
Selected

unrelated to the industry

they have very little/nothing to do with the industry
Peer comment(s):

agree Michael Martin, MA
4 mins
Thank you, Michael. Have a nice weekend!
agree philgoddard : I prefer "that have little or nothing to do with the industry". They're not necessarily totally unrelated.
1 hr
Thank you, Phil. Difficult to say without context - I dare say it depends on the situation in question and it might concern more than one industry. Have a pleasant weekend.
agree Armorel Young
2 hrs
Thank you, Armorel. Have a pleasant weekend.
agree Jaime Hyland
13 hrs
Thank you, Jaime. Have a pleasant weekend.
agree Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
2 days 23 hrs
Danke schön, Harald. Frohes Schaffen!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
11 mins

out of touch with (industry)

Politicians setting the framework are out of touch with the realities of the industry, creating friction between the two in this increasingly competitive market

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Note added at 17 mins (2014-11-07 17:33:25 GMT)
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PS just an example of usage below, it's a very common term especially these days...
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/micwright/100010985/...
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23 mins

outside industry boundaries

I agree with Brigitte's basic interpretation but not with the phrasing.

Competition heightens along with the sensitivity for political conditions outside industry boundaries
Peer comment(s):

neutral Cilian O'Tuama : a progression of English words // See, you're getting personal again.
7 hrs
Oh dear. Is that all you can come up with when you can’t find anything specific to criticize?
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1 hr

industry-interfering

Meant to take the sting out of the competitive arena, politicians deciding (as usual) who the winners and losers should be rather than the marketplace.
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