Nov 16, 2005 12:07
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German term

ohne Trend mit anschließendem Rückgang

German to English Medical Medical: Pharmaceuticals Results of clinical trial of test drug
Wie in den Vorgruppen waren Transaminasenwerte (hier bei 2 Probanden) grenwertig bis leicht erhöht (ASAT bis 1,6-fach, ALAT bis 1,6-fach, gGT bis 1,7-fach), jedoch ohne Trend mit anschließendem Rückgang.

This concerns the blood values of human subjects in a clinical trial. I'm stumped by the last part of this sentence. Does this mean that the higher values did not represent a trend and fell back subsequently? Would greatly appreciate some expert advice here.

Discussion

Anne Schulz Nov 16, 2005:
You are probably right in assuming that there is just an "und" missing - this phrase doesn't really make sense as it stands. One would have to know the whole story though to tell what this ominous "trend" refers to.

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German term (edited): ohne Trend mit anschlie�endem R�ckgang
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without a trend showing subsequent normalization / decrease

see "subsequent normalization" related to liver enzymes:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&d...

HTH :-)

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"ohne Trend" means a sort of statistical statement (trend towards significance between groups, or not?).

See use of "without a trend" related to stratified age groups in this article (page 1, bottom left column):
http://www.ajtmh.org/cgi/reprint/69/3/288

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Note added at 1 day 15 hrs 32 mins (2005-11-18 03:40:04 GMT)
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IMO there is still a need to clarify this even more. I see two parts of your question:
a. What is "zurückgehend" - the answer: the elevated liver enzyme values are decreasing, normalizing
b. What does "ohne Trend" mean in this context?

(The "und" - "und mit anschließendem ..." would make the sentence clearer, as Anne wrote above.)

answer to b.:
Evaluating the cases demonstrating these elevated values, investigators war not able to find any statistical trend or an indication for a specific correlation with another variable (maybe to the therapy they had received before the increase? The details of this study are needed to identify this/these other "variable(s)".)

e.g., the article above, my second URL:
Here the parameter observed was the positive HBsAG test in Vietnamese people. They stratified the sample in several age groups and did not find any trend towards a specific correlation between age group and positive HBsAG.
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agree Steffen Walter
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German term (edited): ohne Trend mit anschlie�endem R�ckgang

without trend and fell back subsequently

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German term (edited): ohne Trend mit anschlie�endem R�ckgang

no evidence of disease trend with subsequent drop in

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Note added at 1 hr 33 mins (2005-11-16 13:41:04 GMT)
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no evidence of disease trend, nor subsequent drop in
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