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Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Zurufgeschäfte

English translation:

ancillary services/ informal commitments

Added to glossary by Bernhard Sulzer
Aug 24, 2006 18:12
18 yrs ago
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German term

Zurufgeschäfte

German to English Bus/Financial Insurance
Anzuwenden sind die Logistik AGB ausschließlich für sog. **„Zurufgeschäfte“**, d.h. sie ersetzen nicht die individuellen Vertragsverhandlungen. Mit Ausnahme des DSLV haben die maßgeblichen Trägerverbände der ADSp (BDI, BGA, DIHT, HDE) es abgelehnt, die Logistik AGB Ihren Mitgliedern zu empfehlen.
Proposed translations (English)
3 ancillary services/ (business) contracts
2 call-business

Discussion

Ken Cox Aug 25, 2006:
Further to the discussion: it's certainly not 'verbal' (try googling 'verbal contract' or 'verbal agreement'). 'Informal' sounds reasonable. Bear in mind that the quote marks in the original mean the term is inofficial (a significant consideration here).
Сергей Лузан Aug 24, 2006:
It(= "informal commitments") fits the context as far as I can judge. "informal commitments (that are formalized later on)" conveys the meaning and idea of the source text. I need a break, too. Probably something better comes to my mind in the morning.
Сергей Лузан Aug 24, 2006:
"informal commitment" sounds much better. At least it was the waz we called it in international finance.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=ru&as_qdr=all&q= "informal c...
Сергей Лузан Aug 24, 2006:
The verbal commitment is reconfirmed in writing by either telex or ...
www.cottonusa.org/directories/BuyersGuide.cfm?ItemNumber=15...
Olaf Reibedanz (asker) Aug 24, 2006:
Of course... I think I need a break!! What about "informal commitments"?
Сергей Лузан Aug 24, 2006:
"mündlich, per Mail, Fax und Telefon" are not exactly "verbal", I´m afraid. They are bilateral for sure and mutual. Let me think a while.
Olaf Reibedanz (asker) Aug 24, 2006:
I just found the following link with a good definition of the term: http://www.bdi-online.de/Dokumente/Logistik_AGB.pdf#search="... On the basis of this definition one could perhaps translate it as "verbal commitments". What do you think?

Proposed translations

1 day 1 hr
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ancillary services/ (business) contracts

Hi,

Based on my research, what is meant here are added-on services/(business) contracts.

Definition:
Die neuen Logistik-AGB sollen ergänzend zu den ADSp hinzutreten und weitere
Fallgestaltungen in der Logistik umfassen. Ihr Anwendungsbereich soll sich auf so
genannte "Zurufgeschäfte" beziehen, d. h. auf
Logistikverträge, die mündlich, per Mail, Telefon oder Fax abgeschlossen werden. Dabei ist besonders an logistische
Zusatzdienstleistungen (Preisauszeichnung, Montage, Regalservice etc.) und die
damit verbundenen Rechtsbeziehungen zwischen Auftragnehmer (Dienstleister) und
Auftraggeber (i. d. R. die verladende Wirtschaft) gedacht.

From:

http://www.bdi-online.de/Dokumente/Logistik_AGB.pdf


Other links:
http://gwhitehair.blogs.com/hpb/2005/12/followup.html
(ancillary services, add-ons)

http://library.findlaw.com/1999/Jan/1/241463.html
(what constitutes a contract)
http://stachanow.twoday.net/topics/Arbeit
(Zurufgeschäft - as a service provided by somebody who is close to the location of the client)

http://216.109.124.98/search/cache?p=Zurufgeschaeft&fr=FP-ta...
(Diskussion - Zrufgeschäft als kurzfristiger Service, welcher besser auf vertragliche Basis gestellt wird, sollten diese Leistungen für längere Zeit in Anspruch genommen werden).

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oops - typo:


http://216.109.124.98/search/cache?p=Zurufgeschaeft&fr=FP-ta...
(Diskussion - Zurufgeschäft als kurzfristiger Service, welcher besser auf vertragliche Basis gestellt wird, sollten diese Leistungen für längere Zeit in Anspruch genommen werden).
Reference: http://www.bdi-online.de/Dokumente/Logistik_AGB.pdf
Reference: http://gwhitehair.blogs.com/hpb/2005/12/followup.html


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Note added at 1 day4 hrs (2006-08-25 22:48:36 GMT)
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Hope this helps.

Bernhard
Reference:

http://www.bdi-online.de/Dokumente/Logistik_AGB.pdf

http://gwhitehair.blogs.com/hpb/2005/12/followup.html

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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Many thanks everybody for your input! I have translated it as "informal commitments" and added the German word in brackets. "
2 hrs

call-business

according to the dictionaries, but I´m more inclined to "acclamation deal".

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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-08-24 20:15:43 GMT)
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http://www2.dict.cc/?s=Zuruf

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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-08-24 20:19:43 GMT)
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or "acclamation business".

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Note added at 12 hrs (2006-08-25 06:55:12 GMT)
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Well, I checked the term through 'making informal commitments' and found no better solution so far. There is a kind of a shady touch in the term 'informal deal(s)'.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q="making ...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=making "...
Reference:

http://www.google.com/search?q=+%22Zurufgesch%C3%A4ft%22+%22call-business%22&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&pwst=1&filter=0

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