Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

portant envoi devant la dite Cour d’Assises

English translation:

referring the indictment to the Court of Assize

Added to glossary by Yolanda Broad
Nov 6, 2004 18:40
19 yrs ago
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French term

prononçant la mise en accusation et portant envoi devant la dite Cour d’Assises

French to English Law/Patents Law (general) law, criminal trial, indictment
again...used in a French criminal court ruling. My concern is "porant envoi devant..." as I have found that la mise en accusation is the [pronouncing of the] indictment. Thank you...
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Proposed translations

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French term (edited): pronon�ant la mise en accusation et portant envoi devant la dite Cour d�Assises
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bearing a writ before (the Court)

envoi = a writ (in context)

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Note added at 3 hrs 24 mins (2004-11-06 22:05:39 GMT) Post-grading
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Another try: \"submitting\" \"delivering\" \"making submission\"
Peer comment(s):

disagree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : "Bear a writ" not legalese and writs belong in the civil domain whereas here we are dealing with a criminal matter.
1 day 13 hrs
I couldn't get far with this idea and am delighted to read your fine research!
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ruling that there is a case to answer and referring the case to the Criminal Court

See below for definition of 'mise en accusation' - I have roughly translated this as 'case to answer'. You could also use the phrase 'grounds for a trial'. In the French (criminal) legal system a judge first rules on whether there are grounds for a trial before sending the case to the criminal court of first instance.


"Mise en accusation: Décision prise par le juge d'instruction à l'encontre d'une personne mise en examen pour crime de la renvoyer devant la cour d'assises pour y être jugée."

The link below is to a helpful legal glossary.

Peer comment(s):

agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : Agree with "refer the case to", although I'd suggest "indictment" rather than "case to answer". See my posting below.
1 day 13 hrs
Thanks Nikki. Enjoyed reading your research too.
agree Yolanda Broad
1 day 18 hrs
Thanks Yolanda.
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1 day 14 hrs
French term (edited): portant envoi devant

refer (the case) to

The following may be helpful.

« …prononçant la mise en accusation et portant envoi devant la dite Cour d’Assises… »

A little more context would be helpful, by which I mean the whole paragraph or at least a fuller extract. “Bear a writ before a court” is a little unsafe. It has no specific meaning in my experience. However, the suggestion with the meaning that the matter is to be referred to the Criminal Court does make a lot of sense. The reference (1) used is perfectly reliable for the first part of the sentence, although a more likely legalese rendering of “mise en accusation” would be “indictment”.
The first part is relatively clear, but instinct is not safe enough of course for the second part, which is the subject of this posting !
However, going on the elements we have, we can be sure that X has announced the indictment (of Y) and still need proof that “porter envoi devant” is a synonym for “renvoyer devant” to mean that the case has been referred to the Criminal Court.

“portant envoi” (without “devant”) :

One bi-lingual reference (2) and (3) from the Canadian parliamentary debates/Hansard below indicating meaning of “convey” thus synonymous with send, refer etc…

Effectively “portant envoi” gets a few hits although generally with “à” later in the sentence. It is valid to search with “à” as well as/rather than “devant” the latter being common in legal fields and less so elsewhere. In fact, most of the hits give “portant envoi de … (quelque chose ) … à (quelq’un”).

Looking at such pages on a Google search will no doubt confirm in your mind as it has in mien that the ordinary meaning is to be applied, thus in context, I’d have no qualms about going with “refer to”.


1 - http://www.justice.gouv.fr/motscles/mcm18.htm

« Décision prise par le juge d'instruction à l'encontre d'une personne mise en examen pour crime de la renvoyer devant la cour d'assises pour y être jugée. »


2 - http://www.parl.gc.ca/36/1/parlbus/chambus/senate/deb-f/038d...

[…] Le cardinal Ambrozic
La motion portant envoi des félicitations du Sénat à l'occasion de la nomination de Son Éminence […]

3 - http://www.parl.gc.ca/36/1/parlbus/chambus/senate/deb-e/038d...

[…] Cardinal Ambrozic
Motion to Convey Felicitations of Senate on Appointment of His Eminence Adopted […]



Peer comment(s):

agree Robert Frankling : I'm so delighted you did this excellent research. My "guess" was intended as a mere starting point. I am embarassed it was selected!
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agree Yolanda Broad : Thanks! I'm changing the glossary entry to reflect your contribution.
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