Aug 2, 2007 08:39
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French term

exposant sur

French to English Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering
From building specs for a plant room:
Réaliser en plancher collaborant exposant sur les murs périphériques et poutrelles IPE :
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The term "exposant sur" is causing me the problem here.
Any suggestions gratefully received.
Many thanks.
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Dean Frances (asker) Aug 7, 2007:
Thank you to everyone for their help. In the end, I didn't get a satisfactory answer from the client and ended up sending in my translation with a translator's note about the problematical paragraph, so we're none the wiser.
Dean Frances (asker) Aug 2, 2007:
Many thanks for the helpful comments again, Bourth. To answer your question, the flooring is for the pump room in a large glass manufacturing plant and will not be for demonstation purposes. It looks like I'll have to get back to the client on this one as the choice of words seems very strange. Cheers again.
Dean Frances (asker) Aug 2, 2007:
No-it's a good suggestion, but I'm still struggling to picture how and why these elements would be exposed...Thanks!
jacqueb Aug 2, 2007:
I agree with Cristina in that a "plancher collaborant" usually refers to a raised concrete (or PPB) floor that contributes to the structural integrity of the building. "Exposant" could then relate to "exposing" the I-beams, etc. above it.
cristina estanislau Aug 2, 2007:
maybe I am just saying something very silly, but couldn'it be missing a coma between collaborant et exposant?
Dean Frances (asker) Aug 2, 2007:
Thanks for the answer, the only context is what follows the "poutrelles IPE":
 Bac acier galvanisé
 Armatures
 Béton
So the glass doesn't seem to be an option. Cheers for the help anyway.
Bourth (X) Aug 2, 2007:
More info? "EN plancher" puzzles me. And might it poss. be a "plancher collaborant exposant" which is installed (with glass???). Etc.

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What sort of document is this? What sort of building? For what purpose?

Since they are spelling things out a bit by explaining what a "plancher collaborant" is, I can't help wonder if this is some kind of demonstration building, and that the "plancher collaborant" is to be "cut away" so that people can see exactly what it is made of. Consequently, at at least one of the peripheral walls and at least one of the beams, the edge of the floor is EXPOSED as a cross-section showing how it is built.

Should it be "réalisER UN" or "réalisé EN", or something else again?

Contrary to what Jacques has suggested, a "plancher collaborant" does not make any particular contribution to the structural integrity of a building (no more than most floors). It means that the floor "collaborates" with itself: the steel decking at the bottom serves as formwork for the concrete poured on top, just as timber shuttering might be used for c"conventional" floors, then removed, but the steel decking is left in place and acts in unison with the concrete to provide a composite effect. The concrete at the top resists the compressive forces induced by downward bending of the floor (concrete has excellent compressive strength), and the steel resists the tensile forces induced at the bottom by the same downward bending (concrete has b***** all tensile strength).

Called "composite flooring, participating floor", etc.

composite decking, participating decking - Steel sheeting with a deep dovetail profile, used as both permanent formwork and reinforcement in a composite floor.

composite floor, composite slab - Profiled steel sections used as permanent shuttering. The absolute minimum thickness of steel is 0.75mm and of the concrete is 90mm overall. Where there is no composite action, the steel is said to be 'non-participating'

composite floor - A steel and concrete suspended floor, used for rapid construction of multistorey buildings. The composite decking is laid on top of steelwork beams and covered with a topping of normal dense or lightweight concrete ...

Scott/Penguin Dict of Bldg / Civ. Eng.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2007-08-02 10:50:27 GMT)
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Likewise! Unless it's some sort of demonstration building for apprentices, etc., I don't see why the floor system should be exposed.
Note from asker:
Many thanks for the helpful comments. To answer your question, the flooring is for the pump room in a large glass plant and will not be for demonstation purposes. It looks like I'll have to get back to the client on this one as the choice of words seems very strange. Cheers again.
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