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English term or phrase:

scarlet sin

English answer:

a sin of extreme magnitude / a very serious sin

Added to glossary by Ana Juliá
Mar 23, 2005 17:49
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English term

scarlet sin

English Art/Literary Religion 19th century text
I know not in what state of soul many readers of this paper may be. But I warn you to take heed that you do not perish for ever for want of "striving". Do not suppose that it needs some great ***scarlet sin*** to bring you to the pit of destruction.

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a sin of extreme magnitude / a very serious sin


Although adultery had sometimes been referred to as the “scarlet sin”, I think in this context J.C. Ryle refers to a very serious sin, such as murder or some act resulting in somebody’s death.
In context:
“I do not know in what state of soul many readers of this paper may be. But I warn you to take heed that you do not perish forever because you did not "make every effort." Do not suppose that it needs some great scarlet sin to bring you to the pit of destruction. You have only to sit still and do nothing, and you will find yourself eventually in the pit of Hell. Yes! Satan does not ask you to walk in the steps of Cain, and Pharaoh, and Ahab, and Belshazzar, and Judas Iscariot. There is another road to Hell that is guaranteed to get you there--the road of spiritual sluggishness, spiritual laziness, and spiritual sloth. “
http://www.biblebb.com/files/ryle/PRACT2.TXT
He is saying that all sin is sin, not just the „outstanding” sin. Cain murdered his brother Abel, the Pharaoh ordered the murder of Jewish children and oppressed the Jews, Ahab’s sin involved murder, Belshazzar was guilty of sins of omission when he saw the writing on the wall, and Judas Iscariot was greedy beyond imagination and betrayed Jesus for thirty pieces of silver. Ryle is saying that one does not need to commit such a “scarlet” sin to separate himself/herself from God – “the road of spiritual laziness…”, of ignoring truths that stare us in the eye is sufficient, it will do just that – separate us from God.


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On a practical note:
I would translate “scarlet” as such, with the word for scarlet used in your language in Isaiah 1:18, or use an adjective to emphasize “great”. I would avoid terms that are too specific – “ultimate sin”, for example, is used to describe the “sin against the Holy Spirit” (e.g. rejecting God), and doesn\'t apply here, and the terms “mortal sin” or “deadly sin” are used in Catholic theology for the seven “deadly sins” defined by St. Thomas Aquinas – a big no-no, because Ryle was an Anglican bishop and a staunch defender of Reformed Christianity. Catholic theology makes a distinction between “mortal” and “venial” sin, but Reformed Christian theology has a different view: all sin is deadly (based on Romans 6:23: \"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.\") Which is, in fact, the point Ryle is trying to make here…
Peer comment(s):

agree Balaban Cerit : Yes. But maybe it needn't be murder or an act resulting in death. For instance, some consider "pride" as the scarlet sin: www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/tallahassee/living/religion/4... But of course, this isn't a religious text, only a news story.
14 mins
Thank you, Balaban. The people he lists as "exceptional sinners" (Cain, Pharaoh, etc.) were all guilty of murder, directly or indirectly. In any case, his point is clear: it doesn't have to be a "great" sin.
agree Refugio : Totally agree, Elizabeth. Adultery is only one of the "scarlet sins".
1 hr
Thank you, Ruth.
agree Java Cafe
10 hrs
Thank you.
agree RHELLER : isn't the point here that it doesn't take much to bring you to "destruction"?
11 hrs
Thank you, Rita. Yes, that's it.
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4 mins

Reference to Nathaniel Hawthorne's The Scarlet Letter

where the heroine made the mistake of committing adultery (the scarlet sin of that story) and was sentenced to wear a big red A on her clothing for all time, to identify her as an adulteress, which you can imagine ruined her life... one mistake, a life sentence among your peers.
Peer comment(s):

agree Lillian van den Broeck
37 mins
agree Rania KH
1 hr
agree Robert Donahue (X) : Maybe. This is a quote from J.C. Ryle (1816-1900). Hawthorne's book was published in 1850. I can see your logic.
2 hrs
agree Alp Berker
6 hrs
agree humbird
10 hrs
agree conejo
4 days
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2 mins

adultery

The "scarlet sin" is adultery

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http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/scarletsin.htm

and

Isaiah, in his day, said: \"Though your sins be as scarlet,
they shall be white as snow, though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool\" (Isaiah 1:18).
Adultery is sometimes referred to as the scarlet sin.

at, for example,
http://www.acts2.com/thebibletruth/The_Nicolaitanes.htm


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http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/scarletsin.htm

and

Isaiah, in his day, said: \"Though your sins be as scarlet,
they shall be white as snow, though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool\" (Isaiah 1:18).
Adultery is sometimes referred to as the scarlet sin.

at, for example,
http://www.acts2.com/thebibletruth/The_Nicolaitanes.htm
Peer comment(s):

agree Robert Donahue (X) : Right. As in The Scarlet Letter by Hawthorne +++Please see my comment on NancyLynn's option.
1 min
neutral NancyLynn : I agree with the ref - see my answer below - but does this particular context necessarily support adultery as the sin, or is the term used more generally?
2 mins
agree Ian Burley (X)
6 mins
agree Kirill Semenov
7 mins
agree sarahl (X)
38 mins
agree Lillian van den Broeck
39 mins
agree Rania KH
1 hr
disagree Refugio : Adultery is not the only "scarlet sin".
2 hrs
agree Alp Berker
6 hrs
agree Dina Abdo
15 hrs
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8 mins

adultery

Same as the sin in the "Scarlet letter"

Married party has sex with person NOT their spouse.
Peer comment(s):

agree Kirill Semenov
2 mins
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59 mins

a deadly sin, an ultimate sin

If the given text had written "the scarlet sin", I would have agreed with the above interpretation of "adultery".

But since the text says "some great scarlet sin", I think it must mean a deadly sin, an ultimate sin or something close. (We must also consider the nature of the original text - named as "classics of Gospel Truth", which I detail at the bottom). Some linked examples:

Isaiah 1: 18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

"Persecution of the saints of God is a scarlet sin, that calls aloud to heaven for vengeance."
http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/3505.htm
A Miracle of Grace - A Sermon Delivered by C. H. SPURGEON, Published on Thursday, March 30th, 1916.

"Again, thirdly, the knowledge of the law binds the person so much the more to obedience, by how much the more he knows it; ... and so, when you sin not knowing the law, the sin is the same for substance it would be if you had known it, yet knowledge dyes it, makes it a 'scarlet sin,' as Isaiah speaks, far greater deeper in demerit than the sin itself...
http://www.newble.co.uk/goodwin/aggsinkno.html
AGGRAVATIONS OF SINNING AGAINST KNOWLEDGE.

"We know that the one scarlet sin, beside which all the cambric sins we have often denounced are too trivial to be interesting, is the sin of human exploitation."
http://www.bestsermons.net/1926/The_Gospel_in_the_Present_Ag...
THE GOSPEL IN THE PRESENT AGE - CARL S. PATTON, D.D.

(Note, I do not read "human exploitation" above as just prostitution.)

"There is no scarlet sin which has been omitted, for the Lord has said, "Come now, and let us reason together: though your sins be as scarlet." He entered into a covenant that he would not turn away from us, to do us good; and no circumstance has arisen, or can arise, which was unknown to him when he thus pledged his word of grace."
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/charles_spurgeon/sermons...
Perseverance in Holiness, A Sermon Delivered on October 6th, 1889 by C. H. SPURGEON

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Finally, I think the second and third sentences (and also the first sentence, but slightly changed) of the question are quoted from John Charles Ryle, the First Bishop of Liverpool (1816-1900), because I found the below text in a document:
"Reader, I know not what your state of soul may be. But I warn you to take heed that you do not perish for ever for want of striving. Do not suppose that it needs some great scarlet sin to bring you to the pit of destruction. You have only to sit still and do nothing, and you will find yourself there at last..."
http://www.tracts.ukgo.com/strive.doc
J. C. Ryle Tracts

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Notes regarding:
Isaiah 1: 18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

\"What does this mean to you?

It means this: No matter what sin you may have committed: prostitution, idolatry, adultery, murder, theft, blasphemy or sedition: you can be forgiven - if you want forgiveness...\"
http://avoiceinthewilderness.org/salvation/sermon74.html

And:

\"The word \"scarlet\" means to shine. It denotes a bright red color due to its appearance and splendor. It derives its hue from a worm or insect which can be found on the leaves of a shrub of the ilex group. It also carries the meaning of something being double-dyed, done twice, or twice-dipped.

In speaking to the people of Israel, God chose the word \"scarlet\" to depict the stain of sin as being a deep-seated, ingrained, fixed, definite, lasting, and permanent color that nothing - dew, rain, washing, or long usage - could ever remove. No effort of man could take this stain away.\"
www.walkingintruth.org/Walkingintruth/devotions/wit2003/WIT...
Peer comment(s):

agree Elizabeth Rudin : I'm glad we agree, Balaban :)
13 mins
thank you, Elizabeth. I'm glad too :-)
agree Refugio
1 hr
Thank you, Ruth.
agree Java Cafe
10 hrs
Thank you
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