Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

have it out for sb

English answer:

yes, the same

Added to glossary by literary
Nov 16, 2007 19:53
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English term

have it out for sb

English Art/Literary Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
"the bitch who has had it out for me since we met"

I have a definition for "have it in for" (Intend to harm, especially because of a grudge)
Are these two the same?

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yes, the same

They do in fact mean the same thing. I'll try to dig up some info on the reason for variation.

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Alright, it seems that "to have it IN for" is the more standard, popular version. The "out" version was used in similar context and has meant the same thing everywhere I looked on the net, but there weren't as many examples of it as with the "in." "In' is also explained in most of the dictionaries I looked in, while "out" is not.

But to answer your question -- yes, it means the same thing.
Peer comment(s):

agree Darya Kozak
6 mins
Thank you, Danissimo.
agree Robert Kleemaier
20 mins
Thank you, Robert.
agree Paula Vaz-Carreiro
30 mins
Thank you, Paula.
neutral Carol Gullidge : I've never heard "have it OUT for someone" in all my born days!/I agree w. Ken, in that I think "have it out for s.o." is an erroneous hybrid (ie, a mixed metaphor) of "have it in for.." and "have it out with", and Google isn't error proof!
1 hr
Must be a recent variation ;)
neutral Ken Cox : It is apparently used in this sense, but IMO results from confusion with 'have it out' in the usual sense of settling a disagreement by frank discussion\\'having it out' is not always friendly, which might explain the confusion
2 hrs
I'm not sure about that, just seems like too much of a stretch to me in terms of the difference in meaning between the two expressions, but it would be interesting linguistic nuance.
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3 hrs

To feel hostile towards sb

Idiom: have it in for someone

colloq
To feel hostile towards them and wish to cause them unpleasantness.

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/62851/

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Jill, from DC writes:
Competitive sourcing costs people jobs. Why does this administration have it out for government employees?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ask/20030722.html

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Have it out for sb = have it in for sb.
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Do the Police Have it out for O.J.?

By Earl Ofari Hutchinson, AlterNet. Posted September 17, 2007.

Do the police have it in for OJ
Posted by: Damu on Sep 19, 2007 12:40 PM
Current rating: Not yet rated [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]

White America has it in for OJ-not just the police.

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/62851/
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5 hrs

have it *out with* sb / have it *in for* sb

Just to confirm what Carol and Ken have suggested elsewhere: there are two similar expressions with very different meanings:
have it OUT WITH sb --> seek (or impose) agreement through argument
have it IN FOR sb --> go looking for revenge

Other combinations are the product of varying degrees of illiteracy/incompetence.

Peer comment(s):

agree Patricia Townshend (X)
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agree V_Nedkov
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agree kmtext
2 days 7 hrs
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